FACTS NEEDED FOR QUASI-SOCIALIST RHETORIC TO CONTINUE:
1) The Iraq war was never illegal....Hussein broke UN resolutions for twelve years.
2) Tony Blair (Britain), Vladimir Putin (Russia), Bill Clinton (the great stainmaker) all co signed that Hussein Possessed WMD's
3) There has not been a single US citizen who has been violated by wire tapping...Wire tapping is only utilized on alleged muslim terrorists calling outside the United States borders when there is not enough time to secure warrants. All blog members are too inconsequential outside peapack road or kitty hawk maine to be considered potential targets...
4) President Bush is not a true paleoconservative or ultra right wing..He removed the ten commandments from his own state court house in Texas, He spends money as reckless as a drunken democrat ( picture charlies angel ted "chappaquiddick" kennedy the night he drove off the bridge)...And he has already spent more money on education as a whole and especially for blighted urban areas than the clinton administration did in 8 years.
Anonymous, you must have a direct line to Turd Blossom to get your stats on who gets and doesn’t get wire-tapped, and when. And even our astute NSA types must find it difficult to validate "alleged muslim terrorists" when "there's not enough time to secure warrants."
And if Georgie has spent all that money on education, we sure never saw a cent of it in the public schools where I’ve been teaching. All we got was pointless extra work and worry over a cynical political hoax called No Child Left Behind.
There will always be people who bought Bush’s lies about the need to invade Iraq who will not admit they were wrong. Same as Viet Nam: I suppose some diehards are still touting the domino theory.
anonymous, nice of you to namelessly join us again. i may think i know who you are but some who read the blog might not, so please, identify.
i thank you for your comments and i agree with you that bush is certainly no paleoconservative ( a pompous academic cognomen meaning nothing more than old school). that fading wing of the republican party never would've trumped up this phony war with iraq (looks pretty good over there today, huh?).
but beyond that i think you miss the point of my blog entry suggesting the simpson bloggers read the essay in harper's. we can argue whether or not the neocons are good for america but that's another issue. this issue, whether you chose to approach it with humor or seriousness, is whether or not there is ample evidence that bush and company lied to, deceived, and manipulaed the american public in order to oust saddam and occupy iraq. if you haven't taken the time to read the essay your points are moot.
if this evidence exists bush should be impeached. that does not mean he's guilty; it means congress will hold him accountable and he will have to defend his actions. i personally have not decided if this is the case, but the harper's essay is a good place to start to procure some good basic information about what & when higher-ups in the bush administration did in the days leading up to the invasion.
Yes, facts would be nice anonymous. Do you have any that are true? These are more like factals, little bits of twisted information basically disregarding what the real issues are. I'm wondering if the state of this country does not worry your mind at least a bit.Did you read Lapham's essay? There have been times in the past when his column might be considered hyperbolic, but this is not one of them. He puts forth a concise time-line with plenty of research to back it up. Was it okay for Georgie and his gang of thugs to manipulate information, with plenty of fear tactics along the way in order to get us into Iraq? Why doesn't it make you angry that you were duped and fucked by these turds? I'm pretty much disheartened by this kind of political discourse. Bottom line,lots of our military are dead and maimed and plenty of Iraquis too. Our reputation is mud, we are not safer, and we are hated more.Our president is probably a felon. Hes a draft-dodger in a flight suit, mission accomplished indeed, what a maroon!
I believe It can be said with relative certainty that if anonymous were to debate another blogger on any matter concerning political theory or intellectual history that the latter party would end up looking like quite the fool Cordially, Huck Finn
Is that what this is all about, who looks the bigger fool?Didn't this discussion arise out of genuine concern for the future of our country, our children, our grandchildren? We are worried about the direction we appear to be headed. Some straight answers would be appreciated, some accountability, not more smoke and mirrors and debate based on same.
Im for a womans right to chose and same sex marriage Im into corn as afuel source Ibelieve a global economy is inevitable im for re districting (Gerrymandering ) to give minoritys (sp) a leg up i hope theirs a woman pres soon and im not for war rich
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FACTS NEEDED FOR QUASI-SOCIALIST RHETORIC TO CONTINUE:
1) The Iraq war was never illegal....Hussein broke UN resolutions for twelve years.
2) Tony Blair (Britain), Vladimir Putin (Russia), Bill Clinton (the great stainmaker) all co signed that Hussein Possessed WMD's
3) There has not been a single US citizen who has been violated by wire tapping...Wire tapping is only utilized on alleged muslim terrorists calling outside the United States borders when there is not enough time to secure warrants. All blog members are too inconsequential outside peapack road or kitty hawk maine to be considered potential targets...
4) President Bush is not a true paleoconservative or ultra right wing..He removed the ten commandments from his own state court house in Texas, He spends money as reckless as a drunken democrat ( picture charlies angel ted "chappaquiddick" kennedy the night he drove off the bridge)...And he has already spent more money on education as a whole and especially for blighted urban areas than the clinton administration did in 8 years.
Cliff Huckstable
Anonymous, you must have a direct line to Turd Blossom to get your stats on who gets and doesn’t get wire-tapped, and when. And even our astute NSA types must find it difficult to validate "alleged muslim terrorists" when "there's not enough time to secure warrants."
And if Georgie has spent all that money on education, we sure never saw a cent of it in the public schools where I’ve been teaching. All we got was pointless extra work and worry over a cynical political hoax called No Child Left Behind.
There will always be people who bought Bush’s lies about the need to invade Iraq who will not admit they were wrong. Same as Viet Nam: I suppose some diehards are still touting the domino theory.
anonymous, nice of you to namelessly join us again. i may think i know who you are but some who read the blog might not, so please, identify.
i thank you for your comments and i agree with you that bush is certainly no paleoconservative ( a pompous academic cognomen meaning nothing more than old school). that fading wing of the republican party never would've trumped up this phony war with iraq (looks pretty good over there today, huh?).
but beyond that i think you miss the point of my blog entry suggesting the simpson bloggers read the essay in harper's. we can argue whether or not the neocons are good for america but that's another issue. this issue, whether you chose to approach it with humor or seriousness, is whether or not there is ample evidence that bush and company lied to, deceived, and manipulaed the american public in order to oust saddam and occupy iraq. if you haven't taken the time to read the essay your points are moot.
if this evidence exists bush should be impeached. that does not mean he's guilty; it means congress will hold him accountable and he will have to defend his actions. i personally have not decided if this is the case, but the harper's essay is a good place to start to procure some good basic information about what & when higher-ups in the bush administration did in the days leading up to the invasion.
Yikes! Don't let Elizabeth see her daddy like that!
Yes, facts would be nice anonymous. Do you have any that are true? These are more like factals, little bits of twisted information basically disregarding what the real issues are. I'm wondering if the state of this country does not worry your mind at least a bit.Did you read Lapham's essay? There have been times in the past when his column might be considered hyperbolic, but this is not one of them. He puts forth a concise time-line with plenty of research to back it up. Was it okay for Georgie and his gang of thugs to manipulate information, with plenty of fear tactics along the way in order to get us into Iraq? Why doesn't it make you angry that you were duped and fucked by these turds? I'm pretty much disheartened by this kind of political discourse. Bottom line,lots of our military are dead and maimed and plenty of Iraquis too. Our reputation is mud, we are not safer, and we are hated more.Our president is probably a felon. Hes a draft-dodger in a flight suit, mission accomplished indeed, what a maroon!
I believe It can be said with relative certainty that if anonymous were to debate another blogger on any matter concerning political theory or intellectual history that the latter party would end up looking like quite the fool
Cordially,
Huck Finn
Is that what this is all about, who looks the bigger fool?Didn't this discussion arise out of genuine concern for the future of our country, our children, our grandchildren? We are worried about the direction we appear to be headed. Some straight answers would be appreciated, some accountability, not more smoke and mirrors and debate based on same.
foul on unca jimi personal attack while blogging richie shoots 2 rich
sorry dick, aka pete.
you're not full-o-shit.
you're two fine fellows, misgiuded fellows, in need of an attitude adjustment
Im for a womans right to chose and same sex marriage Im into corn as afuel source Ibelieve a global economy is inevitable im for re districting (Gerrymandering ) to give minoritys (sp) a leg up i hope theirs a woman pres soon and im not for war rich
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